there's going to be at least 97 women serving in the u.s. house and senate. that is a record. but there is a lot more we can do says pastor author, founder of sister giant marianne williamson. thanks again for joining me and sticking around. >> thank you. >> jennifer: so yeah, you bet. you are known -- i have known you as a pastor and as an author and are you a spiritual activist. do you have some concern in recruiting women for political office about the separation between the spiritual and the political? >> well, certainly as you know, jennifer, the separation of church and state and the constitution is one of the more enlightened, one of the most enlightened aspects of the constitution and it was placed there by the founders to protect both government from any religious interference as well as religion from any kind of governmental interference. when i give talks on the course of miracles every week in los angeles, no policemen gets to come in and say break it up, you're not on the list. >> jennifer: sure. >> so the founders were protecting the spiritual and religious conve